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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many good comments on a great post! I find even the most difficult client will listen to you if you listen to them. I stand up for and explain why I made certain choices, but am willing to try out a client&#039;s ideas. With gentle guidance, the sum of both our ideas is always good. They end up with a good design, I end up with a happy client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many good comments on a great post! I find even the most difficult client will listen to you if you listen to them. I stand up for and explain why I made certain choices, but am willing to try out a client&#8217;s ideas. With gentle guidance, the sum of both our ideas is always good. They end up with a good design, I end up with a happy client.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan and Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key is to provide an in-betweener of &#039;what the client wants&#039; and &#039;why we designed it that way&#039;. This effectively gives the client the results they seek and we have total visual control over how to get that objective done. 

Great article and I enjoyed the bit on how we can further educate the client too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key is to provide an in-betweener of &#8216;what the client wants&#8217; and &#8216;why we designed it that way&#8217;. This effectively gives the client the results they seek and we have total visual control over how to get that objective done. </p>
<p>Great article and I enjoyed the bit on how we can further educate the client too.</p>
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		<title>By: “Bad Clients” &#124; Josh Rucker, Web Developer and Designer</title>
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		<dc:creator>“Bad Clients” &#124; Josh Rucker, Web Developer and Designer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Actually, the client is always right &#124; welcomebrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Actually, the client is always right &#124; welcomebrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello creative world!

I am a graphic Designer 2, and now i&#039;m doing my MA in Design Education. I&#039;m contacting a research in order to find out: 

&quot;What kind of critical decisions do designers make? How do they feel about them?&quot;

Do you think that we can open a chat/topic with this subject
in order to use the answers in my dissertation?

I have done a research to a lot of universities based on that
topic, but i think designers knows better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello creative world!</p>
<p>I am a graphic Designer 2, and now i&#8217;m doing my MA in Design Education. I&#8217;m contacting a research in order to find out: </p>
<p>&#8220;What kind of critical decisions do designers make? How do they feel about them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think that we can open a chat/topic with this subject<br />
in order to use the answers in my dissertation?</p>
<p>I have done a research to a lot of universities based on that<br />
topic, but i think designers knows better!</p>
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		<title>By: 12 tips for a less-stressful designer lifestyle &#124; Graphic Design Blender</title>
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		<dc:creator>12 tips for a less-stressful designer lifestyle &#124; Graphic Design Blender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; PixelRaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; PixelRaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PixelRaves &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client</title>
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		<dc:creator>PixelRaves &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; i know idea</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; i know idea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lou L.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Preston, 

Thanks for this great article. I really enjoyed reading it, and I couldn&#039;t agree more. 

I&#039;ve encountered this with my clients a few times, and just had to set some boundaries, when educating didn&#039;t work - which caused either a better working relationship or losing business...there&#039;s just no compromise when it comes to certain things, and I can&#039;t compromise my integrity as a designer...it&#039;s just not worth it to me.

With design (and a lot of other things) the client is definitely not always right. It doesn&#039;t make sense for someone to come to an expert and pay them, just to ignore their suggestions in favor of their own personal preference. I think that bugs me the most. I once worked with a male personal trainer who happened to love red, silver, and black, while he was trying to appeal to dainty women. He wanted us to create advertising with that color scheme, when it&#039;s pretty obvious that&#039;s not going to work for his target market. That was a tough nut to crack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Preston, </p>
<p>Thanks for this great article. I really enjoyed reading it, and I couldn&#8217;t agree more. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve encountered this with my clients a few times, and just had to set some boundaries, when educating didn&#8217;t work &#8211; which caused either a better working relationship or losing business&#8230;there&#8217;s just no compromise when it comes to certain things, and I can&#8217;t compromise my integrity as a designer&#8230;it&#8217;s just not worth it to me.</p>
<p>With design (and a lot of other things) the client is definitely not always right. It doesn&#8217;t make sense for someone to come to an expert and pay them, just to ignore their suggestions in favor of their own personal preference. I think that bugs me the most. I once worked with a male personal trainer who happened to love red, silver, and black, while he was trying to appeal to dainty women. He wanted us to create advertising with that color scheme, when it&#8217;s pretty obvious that&#8217;s not going to work for his target market. That was a tough nut to crack.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Allen P., I couldn&#039;t agree more...especially when family members feel like they have a little too much freedom in the way they can treat you. After a traumatic experience like that, I&#039;ve decided to keep family out of the mix to preserve the relationship...</description>
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		<title>By: TG Designer &#187; There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client</title>
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		<dc:creator>TG Designer &#187; There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client - Programming Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client - Programming Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; CMS Code</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; CMS Code</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client&#160;&#124;&#160;</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client&#160;&#124;&#160;</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; Web Design Cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client &#124; Web Design Cool</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client - Smashing Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>There’s No Such Thing As A Bad Client - Smashing Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FolderWhy Bad Clients Aren’t Always BadClients Aren&#8217;t Stupid, Web Designer NotebookThe Biggest Myth of Graphic and Web Design, Graphic Design BlenderClients Are Not Demons From Hell, Freelance FolderRelated PostsYou may be [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Doug C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an illustrator once I entered the age of computers and the internet a whole new world opened up for me, and a whole new perception. With the advent of these new technological toys and the invention of programs such as Photoshop the Web was soon overrun by a plethora of bad designers (and equally bad designs). Something that had once taken me hours or days to craft on paper could now be done by anyone and in even less time. To me this was appalling. I&#039;ve spent my entire artistic life not only creating things but also taking care to create them well and now here were these yahoos who hadn&#039;t a lick of experience (let alone talent) raking in business left and right. The whole situation reminded me of a line from the movie Ratatouille where the lead character (a rat named Remy) says, &quot;Yes, anyone can cook. That doesn&#039;t mean anyone should.&quot;

This is a good analogy of what was happening here; anyone could design, but that didn&#039;t mean anyone should. A kid with a copy of Photoshop producing beveled buttons and drop-shadowed web layouts was not a professional. The problem is the majority of people seeking designers to make their web sites and logos are clueless about what constitutes decent design and therefore susceptible to hiring any Chef de Plúnge.

So what to do? Well, the best recourse is education. Therefore as a designer I not only take the time to do an exceptional job for my client I also like to educate them on the proper aesthetics of the craft. Image is everything, after all. It isn&#039;t just acceptable to do a job but also to do it professionally. This is important not only for your client but for the field of graphic design as a whole. Unfortunately, bad designers will always be with us, but the more knowledge we impart upon the masses the less work there will be for those who should not even be cooking in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an illustrator once I entered the age of computers and the internet a whole new world opened up for me, and a whole new perception. With the advent of these new technological toys and the invention of programs such as Photoshop the Web was soon overrun by a plethora of bad designers (and equally bad designs). Something that had once taken me hours or days to craft on paper could now be done by anyone and in even less time. To me this was appalling. I&#8217;ve spent my entire artistic life not only creating things but also taking care to create them well and now here were these yahoos who hadn&#8217;t a lick of experience (let alone talent) raking in business left and right. The whole situation reminded me of a line from the movie Ratatouille where the lead character (a rat named Remy) says, &#8220;Yes, anyone can cook. That doesn&#8217;t mean anyone should.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a good analogy of what was happening here; anyone could design, but that didn&#8217;t mean anyone should. A kid with a copy of Photoshop producing beveled buttons and drop-shadowed web layouts was not a professional. The problem is the majority of people seeking designers to make their web sites and logos are clueless about what constitutes decent design and therefore susceptible to hiring any Chef de Plúnge.</p>
<p>So what to do? Well, the best recourse is education. Therefore as a designer I not only take the time to do an exceptional job for my client I also like to educate them on the proper aesthetics of the craft. Image is everything, after all. It isn&#8217;t just acceptable to do a job but also to do it professionally. This is important not only for your client but for the field of graphic design as a whole. Unfortunately, bad designers will always be with us, but the more knowledge we impart upon the masses the less work there will be for those who should not even be cooking in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Myths About Graphic Design Careers - Part I &#187; Graphic Design Schools &#38; Colleges &#124; Competitions &#38; Contests</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Myths About Graphic Design Careers - Part I &#187; Graphic Design Schools &#38; Colleges &#124; Competitions &#38; Contests</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: David Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I completely agree and I normally try to find a way around bad suggestions. Be it  by making a better suggestion or actually giving them what they want so that they see how bad it was (assuming it actually was a quick change). But one thing I&#039;ve been battling with lately is that I have a full site mock up from the customer to show me what they want. The mock up requires a lot of features and different templates and they really haven&#039;t thought out a lot of things as far as how many templates are being used or the lack of consistency or cms. I&#039;ve toyed with the idea of giving them what they want, but really, it&#039;s my responsibility to educate them to some extant and give them my best work by &quot;cleaning up&quot; their design and &quot;perfecting&quot; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I completely agree and I normally try to find a way around bad suggestions. Be it  by making a better suggestion or actually giving them what they want so that they see how bad it was (assuming it actually was a quick change). But one thing I&#8217;ve been battling with lately is that I have a full site mock up from the customer to show me what they want. The mock up requires a lot of features and different templates and they really haven&#8217;t thought out a lot of things as far as how many templates are being used or the lack of consistency or cms. I&#8217;ve toyed with the idea of giving them what they want, but really, it&#8217;s my responsibility to educate them to some extant and give them my best work by &#8220;cleaning up&#8221; their design and &#8220;perfecting&#8221; it.</p>
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		<title>By: alyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>alyssa</dc:creator>
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		<description>OMG this is my approach, exactly!! I&#039;m so glad to know that someone&#039;s on my side--not JUST the client&#039;s lol.  I&#039;m not even really a graphic designer, yet--I&#039;m still in school--but one thing that&#039;s always bugged me is &#039;what to do if the client&#039;s opinion kinda stinks&#039;.  The example of an accountant is excellent!

It reminds me of the time that I was making a logo for my mom&#039;s business.  I kept the business theme in mind, and kept the logo clean, simple, and had one part that really highlighted the products.  It was great.  My mom hated it.  She wanted something with a Papyrus font, a brick fill/texture and some grass and maybe a part of the product in the logo.  This logo was going to go on a website, business cards, flyers and more.  And her idea of a color scheme wasn&#039;t really a scheme at all.  So I modified the logo I made just a bit until she liked it, but still stayed within the concepts and ethics of &quot;good design&quot;.  

It&#039;s a sticky situation, but I don&#039;t a client would come to you if they didn&#039;t think you as a designer knew a bit more than they did about that subject.  They&#039;re coming to you for a reason.  I think if you stick to their concepts and ideas, but also within the parameters of good design, then it&#039;ll be a win-win situation.

Great post!! :D :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG this is my approach, exactly!! I&#8217;m so glad to know that someone&#8217;s on my side&#8211;not JUST the client&#8217;s lol.  I&#8217;m not even really a graphic designer, yet&#8211;I&#8217;m still in school&#8211;but one thing that&#8217;s always bugged me is &#8216;what to do if the client&#8217;s opinion kinda stinks&#8217;.  The example of an accountant is excellent!</p>
<p>It reminds me of the time that I was making a logo for my mom&#8217;s business.  I kept the business theme in mind, and kept the logo clean, simple, and had one part that really highlighted the products.  It was great.  My mom hated it.  She wanted something with a Papyrus font, a brick fill/texture and some grass and maybe a part of the product in the logo.  This logo was going to go on a website, business cards, flyers and more.  And her idea of a color scheme wasn&#8217;t really a scheme at all.  So I modified the logo I made just a bit until she liked it, but still stayed within the concepts and ethics of &#8220;good design&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sticky situation, but I don&#8217;t a client would come to you if they didn&#8217;t think you as a designer knew a bit more than they did about that subject.  They&#8217;re coming to you for a reason.  I think if you stick to their concepts and ideas, but also within the parameters of good design, then it&#8217;ll be a win-win situation.</p>
<p>Great post!! <img src='http://www.graphicdesignblender.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.graphicdesignblender.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I&#039;ve dealt with this more often than I can remember. Keeping current with the latest in the industry and continuing your eduction will help in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. I&#8217;ve dealt with this more often than I can remember. Keeping current with the latest in the industry and continuing your eduction will help in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: the Ramen Noodle</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My approach is usually, &quot;Don&#039;t do what the client says, do what they want.&quot; The relative term is &quot;want.&quot; The client may say, &quot;Make this red,&quot; but what they want is, &quot;make this stand out.&quot; But maybe what they really &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; is &quot;how can we make the site immediately communicate the important information and lead to action&quot;?

Thanks for your good thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My approach is usually, &#8220;Don&#8217;t do what the client says, do what they want.&#8221; The relative term is &#8220;want.&#8221; The client may say, &#8220;Make this red,&#8221; but what they want is, &#8220;make this stand out.&#8221; But maybe what they really <em>need</em> is &#8220;how can we make the site immediately communicate the important information and lead to action&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks for your good thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Howard</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Preston. We get confused between customer and client. The two seem to have become interchangeable, but they shouldn&#039;t.

People who sell products have customers. People who provide services, have clients.

The expression &quot;The customer is always right&quot; is based on those who sell products. When you buy something, you seek assistance from the salesperson. Sometimes they are the expert, but sometimes you already know enough, so you are the expert.

Providing services is different. Someone seeks your service because you are the expert. You are the designer, they might know a little, but you know more, and that&#039;s why they hired you. As the expert you should know best. And you should be able to provide the best solution.

As the expert you will analyze the client&#039;s needs, branding, ethos etc etc,and design something that fits all those. If the client is still not happy, then you need to ask if you got it wrong or not. Of course, some clients will always want to fiddle and put their touch on it.

Hopefully though, during the analysis phase, you&#039;ve already found out what they want and incorporated that if possible. If it&#039;s not possible, then as the expert you need to explain *at their level*, why not.

If they still don&#039;t get it, you might have to pull out the examples you gave about accountants or personal trainers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Preston. We get confused between customer and client. The two seem to have become interchangeable, but they shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>People who sell products have customers. People who provide services, have clients.</p>
<p>The expression &#8220;The customer is always right&#8221; is based on those who sell products. When you buy something, you seek assistance from the salesperson. Sometimes they are the expert, but sometimes you already know enough, so you are the expert.</p>
<p>Providing services is different. Someone seeks your service because you are the expert. You are the designer, they might know a little, but you know more, and that&#8217;s why they hired you. As the expert you should know best. And you should be able to provide the best solution.</p>
<p>As the expert you will analyze the client&#8217;s needs, branding, ethos etc etc,and design something that fits all those. If the client is still not happy, then you need to ask if you got it wrong or not. Of course, some clients will always want to fiddle and put their touch on it.</p>
<p>Hopefully though, during the analysis phase, you&#8217;ve already found out what they want and incorporated that if possible. If it&#8217;s not possible, then as the expert you need to explain *at their level*, why not.</p>
<p>If they still don&#8217;t get it, you might have to pull out the examples you gave about accountants or personal trainers.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. The client did not study design, the opinions are important because they know the customer. But graphically they should believe in our knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. The client did not study design, the opinions are important because they know the customer. But graphically they should believe in our knowledge.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I&#039;ve tried to explain to both family and friends, that the customer is not always right. Every time I complain about a difficult client they always ask, &quot;Why don&#039;t you just do what they want?&quot;

Ultimately, that&#039;s what we&#039;re stuck doing, if they don&#039;t want to listen and we want to get paid, but luckily I find more and more customers willing to open up and listen to us professionals. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I&#8217;ve tried to explain to both family and friends, that the customer is not always right. Every time I complain about a difficult client they always ask, &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you just do what they want?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ultimately, that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re stuck doing, if they don&#8217;t want to listen and we want to get paid, but luckily I find more and more customers willing to open up and listen to us professionals. <img src='http://www.graphicdesignblender.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alice, Thanks for the great post Preston. I love the Clients From Hell site, I have found my colleagues giving me funny looks for laughing at my desk! Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice, Thanks for the great post Preston. I love the Clients From Hell site, I have found my colleagues giving me funny looks for laughing at my desk! Brilliant!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Web design beauty us in the eye of the beholder &#171; Ben willmore&#039;s web developer Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>Great insights, Preston! This actually reminded me of a website I found the other day: http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/. It&#039;s a collection of anonymously contributed client horror stories from designers. I read some hilarious request from clients there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insights, Preston! This actually reminded me of a website I found the other day: <a href="http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/" rel="nofollow">http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/</a>. It&#8217;s a collection of anonymously contributed client horror stories from designers. I read some hilarious request from clients there.</p>
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